Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

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Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by kevinator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:49 am

I have a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT with 13- speaker Kicker audio system and subwoofer with RER radio. I just installed a Pioneer avic W8400NEX headunit. I flashed the Maestro RR with the factory amplifier checked. Changing the settings for the subwoofer and/or turning the subwoofer on/off does nothing. Changing the balance also seems to do nothing. The fader seems to work.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by Dara DeGrand » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:27 am

The subwoofer is not controlled independently; there are two channels of audio that come out of the factory deck (one left and one right) that go to the amplifier. Once they get there, the amp crosses the signal over and splits it for each individual channel.

If you fade front to rear, does it do anything at all? Balancing left to right should still work as usual.
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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by kevinator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:39 pm

Yes, the fader seems to work, but when I turn the back speakers all the way up and the front speakers all the way down, I can hear music, but the voice/singer seems to go away. Turning the front speakers all the way up and back speakers all the way down, I hear the music and the singer as I should.

The balance does not work. Moving the slider left and right does nothing.

I don't remember how much control I had over the subwoofer with my original factory setup because I never had to adjust it. The sub would handle the lows and it sounded great. It seems like with my new Maestro/Pioneer setup, the speakers are handling the majority of the lows and the sub is hardly doing anything. Is there any way to adjust this with my new setup?

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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by kevinator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:51 pm

Fading front to rear does work, but when I turn up the back speakers all the way and turn down the front speakers all the way, I lose the voice/singer and only hear the music. When I turn the front speakers up all the way and the back speakers down all the way, I hear the music and voice/singer normally. The balance doesn't do anything.
I did some troubleshooting though. The way the fade was acting, it was as if it was in surround sound mode and I remembered there was some setting on the factory head unit for surround sound. So I reconnected my factory head unit and there is a setting that, as far as I can tell, can only be accessed through the steering wheel controls. You can toggle a setting called "Surround Sound Mode" to either "Audio Surround" or "Stereo". When I set it to "Audio Surround", the factory head unit acts just like the Pioneer/Maestro. The balance doesn't do anything and you lose the voice on the back speakers. When I set it to "Stereo", the balance works and I can hear the music normally in the back speakers.
So before I took the factory head unit out, I made sure it was set to "Stereo" mode. I put the Pioneer/Maestro back in, but it still reverted to the "Audio Surround" mode. Do you know of any way to toggle this setting with the Maestro? If not, can this be worked on?
As for the subwoofer, with the Pioneer/Maestro setup, the speakers are handling most of the low end and the subwoofer is hardly doing anything. With the factory head unit, the subwoofer was handling most of the low end and it sounded great. Is there anyway to adjust this with the Pioneer/Maestro setup?

Thank you for your time Dara.

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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by kevinator » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:09 am

I figured out the Audio Surround issue. I am able to toggle that setting with the steering wheel controls just like with the factory head unit, so the fader/balance issue is resolved.

My only remaining issue is the poor subwoofer performance.

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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by JustinFerroni » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:10 am

Do you happen to have any of the x-overs set up on the Pioneer radio? If so, turn them off so that you are getting a full range signal to the amplifier.
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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by kevinator » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:57 am

Yes, the crossovers are off, but it seems like that is what I need. I think with the factory head unit, the subwoofer would handle the low frequencies, but with the Pioneer/Maestro setup, all the speakers are handling the lows. Is there any way to bring it back so that the subwoofer handles the lows and the speakers handle the mids and highs?

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Re: Subwoofer and balance not working correctly

Post by JustinFerroni » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:37 pm

it is the factory amplifier that is responsible for the xover settings. Bot the factory radio and the and aftermarket are suppose to be feeding a 2 channel full range signal. the MRR doesnt actually do anything with the audio and if you cut the tape away from the harness you would see that it goes from the radio directly to the factory wiring.
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